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Class system
Topic Started: Jun 6 2014, 03:55 PM (1,088 Views)
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A hangover from ancient times where the poor would work for the benefit of rich elite and the aristocracy. Is it right and is it fair that we still have class systems? People divided not just by wealth but by their job occupation, geography and culture. Will we see an end to it in our life times? Is the gap between classes widening or getting closer?

Personally I think it's always going to be there. People will always be looked down upon and wealth will be flaunted. It can be narrowed by finding common grounds such as in a natural disaster that effects everyone. But these things are temporary. As soon as the dust settles, the upper classes return to their swimming pools and yachts, the middle classes go back to their four bedroom houses in the country and the working classes go back to struggling to stay above the poverty line.



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I used to be middle class and I didn't live in the country. I'm kinda offended by the stereotyping. I'm upper class now due to my mom's and step dad's expert saving plan which placed them above middle. We still live in a 3 bedroom house which is only the average size. Social class will always exist as it's one of tge easiet ways to separate people and "worth more than your name" .
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I think it could change once all the oil runs out.

Assuming people don't go crazy and fire off nukes physical labour will be needed since all machines won't last too long unless a substitute is found before then.

So some rich CEO who sits on his a*** all day and maybe answers the phone once or twice a day will have far less worth than a miner or some kind of builder.
I'm sure they'll get more money then anyway, iron ore etc will go up in price once it becomes so much more difficult to get.

There'll probably be some poor class of people still though.
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I don't think it's possible to change your class. I think that if you come from a certain background then regardless of wealth, you will always be whatever some people consider to be of that class. So like, if you worked in a box factory and then won the lottery, that doesn't make you upper class. There's more to it than being rich and they can often tell exactly where you came from with one look.



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Jun 6 2014, 06:34 PM
I don't think it's possible to change your class. I think that if you come from a certain background then regardless of wealth, you will always be whatever some people consider to be of that class. So like, if you worked in a box factory and then won the lottery, that doesn't make you upper class. There's more to it than being rich and they can often tell exactly where you came from with one look.

Of course there's more than wealth. But depending on your location you can change your class. I mean there are alot of upper class that are background upper class that doesn't look upper class.

Also btw most people who are poor and win money they blow it off.
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Class is different wherever you are too. Like in America, they don't really have an upper class like they do in the UK. They do still have an upper class, but it's not the same. Middle class is looked at differently too. Like here someone who is a GP or a head teacher of a secondary school would probably be considered middle class. But the American middle class seems much more like the British working class. Factory workers, warehouse workers, ect.


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Jun 6 2014, 08:03 PM
Class is different wherever you are too. Like in America, they don't really have an upper class like they do in the UK. They do still have an upper class, but it's not the same. Middle class is looked at differently too. Like here someone who is a GP or a head teacher of a secondary school would probably be considered middle class. But the American middle class seems much more like the British working class. Factory workers, warehouse workers, ect.
I already said class is different everywhere you go.
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I can only speak in the context of the United States, and I know for a fact that the middle class in the US basically no longer exists. The "American Dream" is a concept of the past because corporate America has taken over.

Of course there are some people around who are "well off", but they are quite rare. In the US, you're either not fully comfortable with your financial future, virtually homeless, or filthy rich.

A "comfortable in-between" really doesn't exist anymore.
Canada recently surpassed the US middle class as #1 in yearly financial income.
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Whenever a somebody gets close to a system like that, well in most case scenarious they become Authortarian, you could say extreme forms of socialism was the closest, Marxism and so on.

There's usually a balance, the moderate line of difference between the rich and the populous where economic factors aren't blurgh like, and everyone benefits to an extent...

Whenever it sours or gets worse, you'd have the populous who's the overwhelming majority who would eventually tople the ruling class. This is a K.O and has happened alot this past one hundred years.


I honestly don't know.
We have been dividing each other, selecting leaders or cheifs who'd guide our "tribes" or civilisations to prosperity. We've been like this since our dawn as a species, in short. We all have a role to play in society!
Everyone is doing their bit. Regardless. One of the reason as to why this has so many problems has to do with the fact that many people endure prejudices and discrimination made to deprive them, oppress them in a certain way to maintain them.

There's a good play called 'An Inspector calls' ;P Has been made into a movie twice.

Not a block buster but still, it does highlight the social problems of it its time...


Labourers are the back bone of society, and without them, there would be no progression and production.

Also! I don't think it will change at all.

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Jun 6 2014, 08:03 PM
Class is different wherever you are too. Like in America, they don't really have an upper class like they do in the UK. They do still have an upper class, but it's not the same. Middle class is looked at differently too. Like here someone who is a GP or a head teacher of a secondary school would probably be considered middle class. But the American middle class seems much more like the British working class. Factory workers, warehouse workers, ect.
I'm not sure that's true, in the US, middle class workers are often office workers, manual labour workers and retail would still fall under our definition of working class, but in the US wages can be lower than ours for those kinds of workers.
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I believe that the "class system" is a great idea introduced by our older generations.The "class systems" introduces and keeps a tough competition between the various classes.This competition I believe will make it clear to all of us who are the weak,poor and low class and who are the rich,powerful and elite people.It will also introduces a responsibility to the "upper class" .Which they accept or do not accept depending on the person and his/her choice.

I personally believe the "Upper Class" has the right to "correct","dictate", and "mock" the other "lower classes" so that the "lower classes" can learn and realize that they have to "work hard" in order to achieve something(and one day they themselves can become a "upper class person" and make themselves and their masters proud) and not be "lazy".It will also help the other "lower class" people to learn about the "harsh realities" of life.

You are entitled to not believe my belief.
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What "is with" all the "quotation" marks in your "post", it makes it hard to tell if "you" are trying to "point out" specific parts or you "are" being "sarcastic" about specific points.

People should be treated equally, regardless of income or background or race, the class system goes against promoting equality.
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@it makes it hard to tell if "you" are trying to "point out" specific parts or you "are" being "sarcastic"

^That's exactly it.I like my answers to be emitted in a "Smokey" way.It is for the person who is reading it,to try to "decypher" the meaning.

@People should be treated equally, regardless of income or background or race, the class system goes against promoting equality.

That's your "personal belief".Different people have different "view points/angles".And my "view points" are for a more "larger/general view" of the problem.I believe my "view points" are better in the "long run".While yours are good only in the "short run".
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Jun 21 2014, 12:35 PM
@Rouge and Quotation

@it makes it hard to tell if "you" are trying to "point out" specific parts or you "are" being "sarcastic"

^That's exactly it.I like my answers to be emitted in a "Smokey" way.It is for the person who is reading it,to try to "decypher" the meaning.

@People should be treated equally, regardless of income or background or race, the class system goes against promoting equality.

That's your "personal belief".Different people have different "view points/angles".And my "view points" are for a more "larger/general view" of the problem.I believe my "view points" are better in the "long run".While yours are good only in the "short run".
In your opinion you mean?

You're promoting inequality and elitism...how is that good in any way?

You're saying for people to start from the bottom of the barrel so that they can work themselves up to be equal to the higher classes, but then saying that everyone just being equal is bad.
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Also, women have to work harder than men in the same job to earn less, which does not help with this argument of people should aim to go higher when a specific gender has to work harder. Then race also comes into play and other forms of discrimination that limit class mobility.
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